{"id":24111,"date":"2017-02-12T10:09:04","date_gmt":"2017-02-12T14:09:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/?p=24111"},"modified":"2017-09-08T10:32:48","modified_gmt":"2017-09-08T14:32:48","slug":"tecsun-s-8800-update","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/2017\/02\/tecsun-s-8800-update\/","title":{"rendered":"Tecsun S-8800 update"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800-WWV.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-23839\" src=\"http:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800-WWV-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"625\" height=\"352\" srcset=\"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800-WWV-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800-WWV-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800-WWV-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800-WWV-624x351.jpg 624w, https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800-WWV.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE: <a href=\"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/2017\/09\/a-review-of-the-tecsun-s-8800-shortwavelwam-mwfm-portable-receiver\/\">Click here to read our full review of the re-engineered Tecsun S-8800.<\/a> Note that the post below refers to the first production run units only.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re considering purchasing the Tecsun S-8800, this is an important post.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve had the S-8800 for about two weeks and\u00a0had planned to have audio clip comparisons prepared and posted by now. My exceptionally busy schedule has made this difficult&#8211;and there a few other complicating factors.<\/p>\n<p>First off, the good news: in terms of sensitivity, selectivity and audio fidelity, I&#8217;m very happy with the S-8800. I&#8217;ve compared it a number of times with the Tecsun PL-880 and the Sony ICF-SW7600GR and it either holds its own or even has a leg-up on both radios in terms of overall performance. I find that the S-8800&#8217;s AGC is more stable than my 1st generation PL-880.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, what will be most telling is what you, dear reader, think of the performance when compared in a blind audio test.<\/p>\n<p>As I mentioned, though, there are complicating factors&#8211;It&#8217;s not just my schedule which has made the S-8800 review come to a halt.<\/p>\n<h2>Birdies&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>Yes, birdies. <em>Lots<\/em> of them.<\/p>\n<p>At first, I thought the noises were due to the fact my mobile phone and Zoom H2N digital recorder were too close to the S-8800. \u00a0I dismissed this interference as it didn&#8217;t sound like the typical steady tone\/carrier birdies I&#8217;ve come to loath over the years.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Tecsun-S-8800-HF.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-24117\" src=\"http:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Tecsun-S-8800-HF.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"485\" srcset=\"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Tecsun-S-8800-HF.jpg 800w, https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Tecsun-S-8800-HF-300x182.jpg 300w, https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Tecsun-S-8800-HF-768x466.jpg 768w, https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/02\/Tecsun-S-8800-HF-624x378.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>As my testing continued, though, I quickly realized these variable heterodyne and digital hash noises must be internally-generated.<\/p>\n<p>Quite literally, as I was outdoors testing the S-8800 and making this discovery last week, I received a message from <em>SWLing Post<\/em> contributor, Bertrand Stehle (F6GYY). You might recall, Bertrand provided us with <a href=\"http:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/2017\/01\/tecsun-s-8800e-availability-in-europe-and-bertrands-first-impressions\/\">an initial review of his S-8800e (the European version of the S-8800)<\/a>. He\u00a0also started noticing the birdies and, like me, initially assumed they were due to an external source of RFI.<\/p>\n<p>Bertrand kindly mapped out the <em>extensive<\/em> list of birdies he found on his S-8800e&#8211;he\u00a0noted a total of 81 birdie\/carrier locations:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>14 birdies on longwave<\/li>\n<li>4 birdies on mediumwave<\/li>\n<li>63 birdies between 1859 &#8211; 29095 kHz<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Comparing notes, there are some differences between Bertrand&#8217;s S-8800e and my S-8800:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Only 50-60% of the birdies on my S-8800 are in the same frequency locations as those mapped by Bertrand on his S-8800e<\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">The total number of birdies, however, are likely identical&#8211;I find birdies where Bertrand hadn&#8217;t noted them<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The appearance and intensity of the birdies can vary depending on listening location and the strength of any nearby broadcast signals. I&#8217;ve noticed four distinct birdie sounds: a variable carrier, a steady carrier, digital hash, and something I might describe as digital variable noises.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve even noticed some change slightly as you move the radio around.<\/p>\n<p>Here are a couple of examples:<\/p>\n<h3>Example\u00a0on 610 kHz:<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"625\" height=\"352\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/bcZiFTTLHHc?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/bcZiFTTLHHc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Click here to view\/listen via YouTube.<\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Example on 2009.15 kHz:<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"625\" height=\"352\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/bYY8bMOk4mI?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/bYY8bMOk4mI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Click here to view\/listen on YouTube.<\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Moving forward<\/h2>\n<p>Obviously, this is a major issue for an enthusiast-grade portable.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sharing all of this information with Anna at Anon-Co. No doubt, she&#8217;ll share this information with Tecsun engineering. The last I heard, projected availability of the S-8800 from Anon-Co is late March 2017. Perhaps there will be time for Tecsun to eliminate these birdies by improving internal grounding and\/or shielding?<\/p>\n<p>Until the birdie issue is sorted out, I&#8217;m not proceeding\u00a0with audio comparisons or a full review. It goes without saying that,\u00a0at present, I couldn&#8217;t recommend purchasing the S-8800. Sad, because this is otherwise a great radio.<\/p>\n<p>I hope Tecsun can sort this out, though.<\/p>\n<p>I will share any\/all updates here on the <em>SWLing Post<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Follow the tags <a href=\"http:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/tag\/s-8800-birdies\">S-8800 Birdies<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/tag\/s-8800\">S-8800<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>UPDATE: Click here to read our full review of the re-engineered Tecsun S-8800. Note that the post below refers to the first production run units only. If you&#8217;re considering purchasing the Tecsun S-8800, this is an important post. I&#8217;ve had the S-8800 for about two weeks and\u00a0had planned to have audio clip comparisons prepared and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":15,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":true,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[6,433,836,3,26,43],"tags":[2749,5854,4017,4397,5955,5956,479,4396,5855,5853],"class_list":["post-24111","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-manufacturers","category-mediumwave","category-new-products","category-news","category-radios","category-shortwave-radio","tag-anon-co","tag-bertrand-stehle-f6gyy","tag-birdies","tag-s-8800","tag-s-8800-birdies","tag-s-8800e","tag-tecsun","tag-tecsun-s-8800","tag-tecsun-s-8800-review","tag-tecsun-s-8800e"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pn3uc-6gT","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":23578,"url":"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/2017\/01\/another-review-of-the-tecsun-s-8800\/","url_meta":{"origin":24111,"position":0},"title":"Another review of the Tecsun S-8800","author":"Thomas","date":"January 22, 2017","format":false,"excerpt":"UPDATE: Click here to read our full review of the re-engineered Tecsun S-8800.\u00a0Note that the review below refers to a first production run S-8800e model.\u00a0 In reply to our Tecsun S-8800e overview, SWLing Post contributor,\u00a0Hymefly, comments: I own this radio. Its performance on AM and shortwave is better than my\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;New Products&quot;","block_context":{"text":"New Products","link":"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/category\/new-products\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800.jpg?resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800.jpg?resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800.jpg?resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":23567,"url":"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/2017\/01\/tecsun-s-8800e-availability-in-europe-and-bertrands-first-impressions\/","url_meta":{"origin":24111,"position":1},"title":"TECSUN S-8800e availability in Europe and Bertrand&#8217;s first impressions","author":"Thomas","date":"January 21, 2017","format":false,"excerpt":"Many thanks to SWLing Post contributor, Bertrand Stehle (F6GYY), who writes: Hi Thomas, The new SSB portable receiver TECSUN S-8800 has been available from Germany, since the beginning of 2017. Supplier:https:\/\/www.wellenjagd.com\/\u00a0has the S-8800e, a Europeen version. I have one unit here and also being an owner of the PL-880, [I\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;AM&quot;","block_context":{"text":"AM","link":"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/category\/am\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800.jpg?resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800.jpg?resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/Tecsun-S-8800.jpg?resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":27762,"url":"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/2017\/08\/video-daytime-mediumwave-shootout-with-the-tecsun-s-8800\/","url_meta":{"origin":24111,"position":2},"title":"Video: Daytime mediumwave shootout with the Tecsun S-8800","author":"Thomas","date":"August 28, 2017","format":false,"excerpt":"About a week ago, I received a re-engineered version of the Tecsun S-8800 from Anna at the excellent online retailer, Anon-Co. If you recall, I evaluated an early production unit of the S-8800 in February and while putting it through the paces, I discovered loud, warbling DSP birdies throughout the\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;AM&quot;","block_context":{"text":"AM","link":"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/category\/am\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"The Tecsun S-8800","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/IMG_20170823_191416757_HDR-1024x690.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/IMG_20170823_191416757_HDR-1024x690.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/IMG_20170823_191416757_HDR-1024x690.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":27791,"url":"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/2017\/08\/video-shortwave-shootout-with-the-tecsun-s-8800\/","url_meta":{"origin":24111,"position":3},"title":"Video: Shortwave shootout with the Tecsun S-8800","author":"Thomas","date":"August 29, 2017","format":false,"excerpt":"After enjoying an afternoon testing the Tecsun S-8800 on the Blue Ridge Parkway\u00a0this past weekend, I decided to return to the parkway yesterday and test the S-8800's shortwave performance. I carved out about two hours of my afternoon and spent the entire time comparing the S-8800 to the Tecsun PL-880\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;New Products&quot;","block_context":{"text":"New Products","link":"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/category\/new-products\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/Tecsun-S-8800-shortwave-dial-1024x576.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/Tecsun-S-8800-shortwave-dial-1024x576.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/swling.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/Tecsun-S-8800-shortwave-dial-1024x576.jpg?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":28139,"url":"https:\/\/swling.com\/blog\/2017\/09\/a-review-of-the-tecsun-s-8800-shortwavelwam-mwfm-portable-receiver\/","url_meta":{"origin":24111,"position":4},"title":"A review of the Tecsun S-8800 shortwave\/LW\/AM-MW\/FM portable receiver","author":"Thomas","date":"September 8, 2017","format":false,"excerpt":"Earlier this year, Tecsun released its long-awaited newest large portable: the Tecsun S-8800 portable shortwave\/LW\/AM-MW\/FM receiver. Though I fully intended to buy a Tecsun S-8800 for review, our friendly Hong Kong-based Tecsun retailer, Anon-Co, sent an S-8800 to me before I could. 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