Many thanks to SWLing Post contributor, Dave Zantow (N9EWO), who notes that he has updated his Sangean DAR-101 recorder:
Yes, a newly tested (latest production) sample of the [DAR-101]. My years old “lightly used” sample died back in the fall. New one seems to work less sluggish with the updated firmware as well as adding monitor speaker selection in the menu’s.
http://n9ewo.angelfire.com/dar101.html
The AC Adapter info should also be valid for the ATS-909X as well.
Nice standalone MP3 recorder with a built in amplifier and large speaker.
Thanks, Dave. This is a very tempting purchase. I do quite a lot of off-air recordings for the SWLing Post and, especially, the Shortwave Radio Audio Archive. I typically use my Zoom H2N for line-in recordings, but at home would prefer something that would sit on my desktop better and with a built-in speaker. The DAR-101 might fit the bill.
I see that it’s currently $81.52 on Amazon right now (affiliate link) and $99.95 at Universal Radio.
It’s a great unit, but the firmware has not been updated for probably more than 10 years, despite some significant problems.
For continuous recording:
1)
The unit will create new files of a specific duration automatically. Unfortunately, illegal filename characters for Windows were not excluded. You will therefore end up with some files that cannot be read on a Windows computer.
2)
The files of subsequent files for longer recordings will all have the same date and time in the file system. Since the filename does not include data/time information (another blunder) you cannot tell when a particular file was recorded.
If have reported this multiple times to Sangean and they do not see this as a problem.
I have everything set up but for some reason, the outgoing calls are recorded out loud with an echo.
I have no problem with the incoming calls they record fine only the outgoing is on the loudspeaker with an echo. Can anyone tell me how to fix this as I have not read of anyone else having a problem and I followed the setup step by step.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Are the recordings Time and Date stamped on this recorder?
I too, am still looking for information on time of day information. Have you read anything about doing this?
On mine I have the chip in it to store my messages and they have the time and date and info of the call on every call recorded
how long will it record continuously?
If Sangean offered another firmware update and took the advice of ‘The Professor’ I would definitely pick one up .
I cant seem to get the voice activated recording working, its all turned on in the settings. I turn on the recorder and press the rec button one, when audio comes in from my radio, it doesnt start recording?
Years ago Sangean had the PR-D8, an AM/FM radio with MP3 recording capability. It could record good quality audio at 128 and 192 kbps, but it had a problem. The PR-D8 could not fast forward or rewind through a file. It was unreliable when fast forwarding and got “stuck” or “froze” almost every time when rewinding. Does the DAR-101 have any problems fast forwarding or rewinding through a file?
YES, the DAR 101 DOES INDEED have major issues with the FF and REWINDING to this very day .
Does it come with a PSU?
I am interested by the Sangean DAR-101 phone recorder but I read that there is a limitation regarding the 6 seconds recording delay when recording a new phone call / conversation. Is this still the case with most recent model? Are there other similar phone recorder on the market that would not have this limitation? Please advise. Thank You.
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I am considering purchase of the Sangean DAR-101. But, I have a question about recording shortwave broadcasts from my Sangean ATS-909X with the DAR-101.
From what I have read these two pieces of gear are designed to be compatible for timed recordings. The LINE OUT and REMOTE connection jacks on both allow timers on the 909X to power up the radio on a preset frequency and use the record standby function of the DAR-101.
What I don’t understand is which unit controls the recording duration. How does one set-up a 60-minute recording of say, a KBS English language broadcast during the wee hours of the morning? I want to record silently (speaker audio off) during my rack time and have both units operate automatically.
Any answers to how to set record limit. Is it able to be done on radio or the recorder?
I’ve had one of these for along time, and it’s been pretty much the only way I’ve recorded radio for years. It’s an easy to use rock solid workhorse.
My biggest complaint is the lack of recording format choices, and I’ve long hoped there would be a firmware update to expand them. Sure, being able to record WAV files would be welcome, but I’m not really in need of that. What I would like is a broader range of MP3 encoding options, up to 320kbps. And of course, to be able record in mono or stereo. All MP3 options on everything are just stereo by default, because almost everybody is dealing with post 50s music in the MP3 format, and that’s always stereo. But AM and shortwave radio are of course only mono, as are phone conversations, which this device is specially outfitted to record.
It’s a waste of a channel. If it’s a mono source it’s a waste of space on the SD card just for starters. But don’t forget that the encoding rate is divided by two in a stereo format. A 160kbps mono file is equal to a 320kbps stereo file. So, a 192 mono file would be superior to a 320 stereo file. Of course, I could get into “joint stereo” and VBR and throw in more variables, but what I’m saying here is pretty much on point.
That said, AM broadcasting is rather limited in acoustical dynamics, at least as we know it. I’ve found that it’s very hard for almost anybody to hear any artifacts in a 32kbps mono recording of AM radio. It stands up to compression well. And it also stands up well to RE-compression. I often expand the MP3 files I make on this into mono WAV files and tidy them up and normalize and edit them. I never notice any artifacts in the MP3 encode I make of the resulting file(s). So, I’d like more encoding formats, but the 192kbps stereo option on the DAR-101 is fine for me in the end.
This recorder also makes a fine speaker for a laptop. When you hit record the first time the speaker monitors the audio source out loud. You press record again and it starts to lay down audio on the card. So if I want to use it as a speaker I just leave it in “ready to record” mode. Works fine.
And for you old cassette heads, it looks enough like a cassette deck, which is comforting I suppose. I think the wall wart AC power adds a little noise. I just make sure the batteries are charged when I’m going to use it. And sometimes it makes a difference to keep it a couple feet from your radio to avoid any little bit of RFI.
In general, I highly recommend the DAR-101. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
I am having problems getting it set up. I have two new ones and I cannot use them. I even went and had the SD cards formatted and both still reads no SD card. I am so upset. Professor can you please guide me as to
how to even get this thing set up for use with the S.D. card. Please, Please, Please
I had the same problem but I was using the wrong SD card (an older one) It says you can only use up to 32gb SDHC at the most. I used my computer to format it before inserting it as it has to be formatted in Fat32.
All solved for that problem now everything works fine except I can’t seem to get it not to record out loud on “outgoing calls” the incoming is fine. If anyone can help me with that.