Rethinking Internet Radio, Part One

At the SWLfest this year, I attended a forum about web/Internet radio that resulted in my reconsideration (and, frankly, increased appreciation) of this now-conventional medium. If you’re already familiar with web radio, you may find this post a bit primary in nature; but if, like me, you hadn’t given the medium much consideration, I ask that you join us for a little rethink.

I decided, just to be fair and broad-minded, I really ought to take an exploratory plunge into the diverse world of web radio. True, we’ve never discussed this on the SWLing Post before; as our name implies, we usually stick closer to our classic shortwave medium. But as we do like to cover international broadcasting in our post, we must acknowledge that internet radio is now a significant part of that far-reaching landscape.

So, in order to cover the subject comprehensively, we’ve addressed it in two parts:  This first post focuses on the platform of internet radio, and attempts to dispell some misconceptions surrounding it in the SW community.  The second post will be a review of an ultra-cheap, rather unconventional web radio that will give you years of radio listening pleasure, should you wish to give it air time. I’ve also included some  insightful comments from our SWLing colleagues, also the forum’s presenters, so do keep reading.

Web Radio: a (very) short primer

The C.Crane Wi-Fi Internet Radio

First, a little terminology: There is no standardized name for the internet radio platform. Some people call the medium “web radio,” others call it “internet radio,” and manufacturers often refer to their purpose-built radios as “wi-fi radios.” All of these terms are correct and mean essentially the same thing, so we use them interchangeably here.

Everyone reading this post electronically already has access to web or internet radio–all you need is access to a computer, a smart phone, or an internet-enabled device with an application or web site that can tap into databases of stations around the world.  You’ve clearly got that.

The Logitech Squeezebox is a popular web radio/wi-fi player

However, when most people think of web radio, they think of a tabletop device that looks like a traditional radio, but links to your home internet connection and plays music from the web. This type of internet radio is, of course, very convenient.  You simply turn on the radio and literally tune across the world by means of a familiar tuning knob. By far, the web radio most of the SWLfest attendees preferred (and recommended) was the Logitech Squeezebox–for many reasons, including its comparatively open-to-development radio station server.

Tabletop web radios are great, but let’s face it–they’re a bit pricey, easily $100+, not really portable, and only deliver internet radio.  They’re the right solution for your kitchen, bedroom or home office, but you wouldn’t find it particularly convenient to travel with one of these or to move it from room to room.

Plus, there is the risk that if you buy a cheap purpose-built internet radio, and the parent company goes out of business, your radio will no longer have a database from which it can pull stations. Eager manufacturers jump into the market, as so many did in the early days of wi-fi radio, only to realize later that it’s not the right avenue for them and discontinue their radio service. Because many of these radios run on proprietary software and servers, when their companies fall out of the market, these radios are unable to connect to stations any longer. In other words, should your radio befall this unfortunate fate, your sleek, high-tech device could abruptly become no more than a paperweight.

Introducing TuneIn 

At the forum, the conversation quickly moved from wi-fi radios (like the above-mentioned Squeezebox) to internet radio applications for mobile devices. This applications (or programs) effectively turn your mobile device into a web radio. The one app name that received the most favorable mentions in our forum discussion is  “TuneIn.”  To learn a little more about TuneIn, I asked one of the presenters, Richard Cuff, why he likes it so much? Richard’s reply:

There are several different Android and iPhone apps that can help you navigate Web Radio, with TuneIn getting consistently high marks for its comprehensiveness and quality of listings — i.e., listings are up-to-date, and have few broken links.

The free version of TuneIn may be good enough for most people; the only notable restriction in functionality is that you can only maintain a personal list of favorites via the TuneIn website, not the mobile app; the paid version of TuneIn (99 cents for iPhone / iPad / Android / Blackberry), allows you to create and maintain a favorites list on your device itself.

Free versions of TuneIn are available as a web app, along with
versions for iOS devices, Android, Blackberry, Windows Phone, and Palm devices.

In essence, TuneIn turns your smart phone, iPod Touch or tablet device (like the iPad or Kindle Fire) into a sleek internet radio that not only tunes in stations from around the world, but gives you access to scanner activity as well (fire, police and public utility transmissions, for example). How custom you’d like it to become, depends upon 99¢.

By the time the forum presenters had finished introducing this app, many of us in the room had already installed TuneIn on our phones and were checking it out for ourselves.

Other like applications were mentioned; I asked Richard about those he felt were stand-outs:

Another mobile app worth considering is the free FStream, but you have to build a list of stations yourself–it does not come with a comprehensive directory.

Many individual stations and station groups offer their own free apps, such as NPR, PRI, Radio France International, Germany’s DW, and Japan’s NHK; if you tend to listen to these specific stations, you may want the added functionality these individual apps may offer.

But is internet radio “cheating?” Is it really radio?

During the forum, I realized that many SWLers attending were more than reluctant to endorse web radio as an alternative to the familiar, trusted medium of shortwave radio. Prejudice, not to mention a certain amount of guilt, was detectable in the room. But as many on the panel were quick to point out, holding internet radio up to shortwave is really comparing apples to oranges–they not only don’t grow on the same tree, but shouldn’t be expected to.

The Worldwide listening Guide

I asked forum co-presenter John Figliozzi, author of The Worldwide Listening Guide, for his thoughts on the subject. After all, his radio guide is unique in that it includes not only frequency listings from across the traditional radio spectrum, but is also an authoritative internet radio guide.  Here’s what John replied:

The argument that only (pick one) AM/FM, [or] shortwave can rightfully be called “radio” is actually counterproductive to the interests of those who truly love radio.  Indeed, the success of radio as both a communications medium and art form is amply demonstrated by the manner in which it has blossomed into a number of manifestations–platforms, if you will–from its origins exclusively in medium wave wireless transmission.

Many have lost credibility as they’ve loudly heralded the death of radio at the hand of (pick the latest new technology over the last 80 or more years).  Every time, radio has remade and transformed itself into a more ubiquitous, flexible, relevant and contemporaneously useful medium.

For a traditional SWL[er], two of his or her key motivations for becoming an SWL[er] in the first place are even more fully addressed by today’s newest platforms embracing wifi internet radio:  (1) exploration of non-American cultures, ideas and societies; (2) that insatiable desire for more–more stations, more ideas, more voices, more styles.  (Certainly, the DXer will rightfully view wifi radio as “cheating,” but the DXer has arguably limited his or her sights to the point where content is meaningless.  In so doing, as broadcasters seemingly migrate away from shortwave, amateur radio transmissions should more than adequately serve as a substitute target for DXers and their interest.)

John makes excellent points here, and I must say that I agree.  In fact, I now see web radio as a platform for discovering small, even semi-isolated, community radio stations that, until the Internet, had never broadcast signals beyond their local communities. With web radio, we can enjoy these stations as if we, too, are locals. Local becomes international.  As ever, radio travels–radio opens doors and minds.

My (happy) conclusion? Web radio and shortwave radio listening are symbiotic–vitally linked, interdependent, nourishing one another, and growing in tandem.

As the SWLing Post is focused more on shortwave radio and international broadcasting, I asked Richard Cuff where listeners could go to be actively involved in discussions regarding internet radio? His suggestion:

There are several discussion and review-based websites on the subject of Internet Radio–there is a discussion group hosted at the Hard-Core-DX website that focuses on Internet Radio through the perspective of shortwave listening; check out for specifics.

If we’ve convinced you to take the plunge into internet radio, and abandon any prejudice or guilt you may have about doing so, you must read our second part of this internet radio post.

Continue to Part Two of this post, which details using the Cricket Muve ZTE Score No Contract Android Mobile Phone as a highly affordable web radio.

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16 thoughts on “Rethinking Internet Radio, Part One

  1. Dan

    Thanks for an interesting article. I love Tunein and I find the argument about the range of content now available very convincing. Internet radio is not lesser, just different and with the right applications, so easy to use. Unfortunately, all of this is ok for us, we have internet access, reliable power and most likely, governments that are not restricting our access to information. It’s the rest of the world that I worry about more if we are in the decline of shortwave. I’m fairly new to it and wish I had pursued it years ago when I was curious about those fancy radios in electronics store catalogues

    Thanks for a great website, it has all been very informative to me.

  2. Chris Freitas

    This is a great article about web radio. What some shortwave listeners fail to see is that what is most important is content, not just picking that station up static-free or not. I have been a SWL since 1997 and I am 27 years old. Maybe because I am just young, but I actually prefer listening to stations online than on shortwave radio. With more and more stations leaving HF, I can easily listen to them on the web from anywhere. Some say that web radio isn’t radio because it doesn’t use radio waves. If that’s the case, then 3/4G networks and wi-fi routers shouldn’t exist because they all use waves to communicate wireless. So yes, it is definitely radio, but it has some limits. I still enjoy tuning to shortwave on my Tecsun PL-660, especially since some SWL broadcasters don’t stream online.

    For my online listening methods, I use my smartphone (T-Mobile MyTouch). I had actually made the mistake of buying a C.Crane shortwave radio, but I have returned it this week. With the refund money, I may use it to get a standalone wifi radio like the Logitect Squeezebox. You can download a TuneIn (like what I use on my cell phone) app on the Squeezebox, which is good for syncing up with my exsisting presets.

  3. Peggy Miles

    Hi Thomas!

    Enjoyed your thoughts.

    Getting access to something you want to hear, no matter the distribution channel, anywhere in the world whether by ham radio, satellite, a podcast, an internet radio station gives more people the opportunity to learn, enjoy, relate…and share.

    All good choices….

  4. Ira Holmes

    As a short-wave listener going back to the 1950s, I miss the fun of short wave, but I was always more concerned with listening to specific programs than catching distant stations. TuneIn works for me! I also use Download Radio on my computer to download and listen to specific BBC programs.

    By the way, congratulations on your well-designed web page/blog.

  5. Kf4ukb

    I’m listening to KUCB, 89.7, a community station in upper Alaska on Tunein. Something that wouldn’t be possible with terrestrial radio. It isn’t DXing, but it’s interesting. By the way, the 99 cents for ITunes pro is worth it. I use my larger iPad, sign in to Tunein, set my favorites on there, and they end up on my iPhone Tunein, and on my Roku.

  6. Ken K. in NJ

    Actually, the free version of Tune In does allow you to set up a list of favorites. Only problem is that it doesn’t link in any way to the web based Tune In, so if you’ve already got favorites there you’ll have to re-enter them on the mobile based version. As far as I can tell, the main difference between the free and 99 cent mobile versions is that the paid app allows you to record (a good feature and certainly worth 99 cents).

    On the other hand Pandora does allow you to have the same favorites across the two platforms because you use the same sign-in for both versions. But of course Pandora is a self contained service and thus not the same as Tune In.

    1. Ryan

      Hi Ken,

      If you sign up for a free TuneIn account, you can save your presets across your mobile phone, tablet and without having to re-enter them. Go to and click the upper-right menu item to create the account.

  7. Kf4ukb

    I LOVE DXing, and am in fact deciding which new shortwave radio to purchase. (any advice, around $100.00 give or take would be appreciated!) thanks. However, wifi radio is the future. If the most important aspect of radio is to give information from point a to point b, or entertainment, or…whatever, then wifi radio hits it dead on. I have an iPhone, and use Tunein among other apps and I love it. I have several police scanner apps that I can use to listen to police, fire, ems, airport control towers from all over the world. Wifi radio is the future, and we can be pulled, screaming our lungs out towards it, or we can embrace it, use it, and admire the technology that makes it possible. As I said, I’m still going to DX, I’m just going to enjoy both worlds.

  8. VAXXi

    If it’s 10100101100111010101s, then it’s not radio. Radio has to be squiggly waves, period 🙂 Thumbs up for TuneIn, I’ve bought it too – great app.


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