Two months ago, SWLing Post reader Paul Adler wrote to ask:
“Any reviews and comparisons of the Sangean DT-800?”
The Sangean DT-800? This caught my attention, as I wasn’t, at the time, familiar with this recent addition to the Sangean product family. So I promptly began investigating the new product, and checked out the manual; I found it has a few features that really intrigue me, namely:
- The ability to turn off soft muting
- The ability to internally recharge NiMH AA batteries
- Multiple bandwidth on AM and FM
- Weather band with weather alerts
- FM RDS
- No telescoping antenna––rather, an included wire antenna
In my mind, these features seemed to set it apart from other similar portables. And with the ability to defeat the soft mute, I wondered if it could make for a formidable Ultralight DX radio?
I contacted Sangean, and they kindly sent me a review sample of the DT-800. It comes in two chassis colors: standard black and and a bright fire yellow. I chose yellow, which makes it easier to spot should this handheld be lost or dropped in an outdoor setting.
Thanks for the suggestion, Paul!
Giveaway! By the way: since this is a product sample and was sent to me free of charge, I’m going to give it away to a lucky SWLing Post Coffee Fund or Patreon supporter next week, just to say thanks!
Now, let’s get on with the review…
Initial impressions
As with almost all Sangean products, the DT-800 arrives as a complete package, with all accessories. Inside, you’ll find the radio, a full-length multi-language owner’s manual, a warranty card, an AC adapter (with in-line RF chokes, nice touch), in-ear headphones, an external wire antenna, and a belt clip.
The DT-800 fits nicely in the hand, and the matte finish on the sides and bottom of the radio make gripping it quite easy, lessening the chance of dropping or losing the unit.
The front panel is simple: five multi-function preset buttons and a Page/Menu button. All of the buttons are tactile and have a matte finish, as well; they feel of good quality and have a great response.
The right side of the radio (see side view, above) has a tuning/select up/down jog switch, a mechanical keylock button and a MicroUSB DC in port.
On the left side of the radio (see left side view, above) you’ll find the volume up/down buttons and a stereo/mono/speaker mechanical switch which you can use to switch between the internal speaker and headphones.
On top of the radio (above) you’ll find the power button, band selection button and the headphones port, which doubles as the external antenna port.
On the back of the radio you’ll find the DBB bass-boost slider switch, the battery compartment, and a belt clip.
One thing you’ll quickly notice is a lack of any telescoping whip antenna. Instead, the DT-800 ships with a wire antenna that’s almost three feet long. I suspect that this is the same type of FM antenna that shipped with the Sangean WR-7 (click here to read review).
Design/Ergonomics
All in all, I’m very pleased with the DT-800’s design: it fits well in the hand, the buttons and controls are easy to use, and it’s small enough––and flat enough––to easily slip in a pocket, go-bag, or carry-on. A great portable for one-hand operation. It’s also lightweight, even with the batteries inserted. Truly, this appears to be a quality little radio.
Tuning the DT-800 is a simple process: simply utilize the up/down rocker switch on the right side of the radio to increase by specified frequency steps (selectable 50/100 kHz FM or 1/9/10 kHz AM), or push and hold it in one direction to skip across the band. While the DT-800 does mute between frequencies, it’s not annoying––in fact, muting is brief and audio recovery is rapid so you can actually carry out meaningful band-scanning, actually hearing stations between the steps. If you press the rocker switch, it will initiate an auto-scan in the direction you’re tuning.
While the DT-800 lacks a keypad for frequency input (in truth, I would not expect such a thing on a walkman-style receiver) it does make tuning to your favorite stations quite easy with 20 FM, 20 AM, and 5 WX presets. Saving a station to memory is truly a breeze: simply select the page you’d like to save it to, then press and hold the preset button to save it to one of the numbered presets. Really, it couldn’t be easier.
To change the volume on this radio, you use rocker buttons on the left side of the radio to increase or decrease volume up to 25 levels. I particularly like the fact that level 1 is very quiet and 25 is as loud as you would ever want from a small radio. I mention this because, in the past, I have reviewed radios that had coarse volume steps, and the lowest setting is louder than I prefer: not so with this little rig.
Entering menu items on the DT-800 is quite easy, too. Some are accessed by pressing and holding the Page/Menu button and then cycling through and selecting items with the tuning up/down switch. Others are accessed by pressing and holding the Page/Menu button, then selecting one of the five buttons on the front panel (note that each menu function is listed below the numbered button).
The DT-800’s display is backlit and large, thus very easy to read at any viewing angle.
AC Adapter
I can’t think of the last time I gave an included AC adapter its own subheading in a review, but the DT-800 power supply deserves one.
Not only does the DT-800 ship with a power supply (AC adapter), but it’s a quality one: the cord jacketing is thick and feels exceptionally durable––and though I’m not going to cut it apart to find out, I expect the wiring within it is a heavier gauge, as well. This adapter also has no less than two in-line RF chokes.
In a day and age when included “wall wart” power supplies are often of the cheapest quality and spew so much radio interference that they render attached receivers useless, the DT-800 adapter is a very welcome addition to this radio’s kit.
Well played, Sangean! I hope other radio manufacturers follow your lead.
Batteries
Lately, it seems most new radios are being designed to accommodate slim Lithium Ion battery packs. So, another welcome sight was opening the DT-800’s battery compartment to find slots for two AA batteries.
While Li-ion batteries have advantages in terms of weight and size, I prefer AA batteries for pocket and travel radios, as AA batteries are so ubiquitous on this planet and are available in all but the most remote regions of the world.
And better yet? You can internally recharge NiMH batteries with the DT-800. The DT-800 ships with a default setting for alkaline batteries. But to internally recharge NiMH batteries, simply open the battery compartment and change the battery type switch from “Alkaline” to “NiMH.”
This is an amazing and useful feature, but just be sure if you ever use the NiMH internal recharging function and then switch to alkaline cells, that you change the battery selection switch back to the alkaline setting. You certainly wouldn’t want the DT-800 to attempt recharging your alkaline cells!
As you can see in this photo, I’ve been using Panasonic Eneloop NiMH batteries in the DT-800. I use a special charger for Eneloops, so have kept the battery selection switch set to alkaline so the DT-800 doesn’t attempt to charge them. I might even put a small piece of colored tape on the switch to keep it in place for now.
Audio
The audio via headphones? It sounds great on the DT-800!
Indeed, the DT-800’s included in-ear style stereo earphones are a cut above most other included-with-a-product earphones, and as a result, produce more pleasant audio.
With the headphones engaged, FM offers selectable mono or stereo; mono, of course, makes marginal stations more stable since the stereo lock isn’t struggling.
Like the Walkman radios of days gone by, the DT-800 uses the headphone cord as an antenna when it’s attached. If you’re using the internal speaker, you’ll need to attach the included external wire antenna for FM and WX bands.
The DT-800 internal speaker produces decent audio for the size of the radio. The speaker is tiny, so the audio is somewhat tinny (narrow in range) when listening to music. But the DT-800 also has a DBB (Dynamic Bass Boost) switch––engaging this will increase the bass response a bit, most noticeable when using headphones.
Performance
The DT-800 has three bands: FM, AM (mediumwave), and WX (weather). Let’s take a look at each.
FM Band
The DT-800 sports a unique feature on the FM band: the ability to select between a wide or a narrow filter. Since the dawn of the DSP chip, many a portable radio has enjoyed selectable bandwidth filters, but it’s a rare portable that has FM filters. I do pretty much all of my FM listening with the wide filter engaged, but if you live in an urban area with a crowded FM band, choosing the narrow filter, even if it compromises audio fidelity a bit, will give you better selectivity. Nice touch, Sangean!
In terms of sensitivity, with the external antenna inserted, I’ve been very pleased with the DT-800. It receives all of my benchmark FM stations. With headphones inserted (used as an antenna) and stereo engaged, it has ever-so-slightly less sensitivity than several of my other DSP portables. With the headphones inserted and FM in mono, I find that it’s on par with––or surpasses––my other reference DSP portables.
Here’s a little wrinkle, though: when listening with the internal speaker, you must insert the external wire antenna to use this receiver on FM. Without the external antenna, sensitivity decreases by a good 70-80%, as you essentially have no antenna. If you live in an area with strong FM stations, you’ve nothing to fear, but if you live in a rural area, you’ll certainly want to keep that wire antenna handy.
On one hand, the wire antenna is easier and more flexible to deploy than attached telescopic antennas, which can be bent or broken. But on the other, an external wire antenna is just another item you’ll need to pack and take along with the radio if you plan to listen via the internal speaker.
If you plan to listen with headphones, however, no worries! I find the sensitivity with headphones inserted to be just as effective. In fact, instead of taking along the wire antenna you could bring the included headphones, and they’ll double as an external antenna while listening via the internal speaker. In my tests, the headphones performed about as well as the external wire antenna.
My advice? If you purchase the DT-800, either keep the small wire antenna or a pair of headphones nearby to insure you’re getting the best FM reception.
Weather Band
The same notes above about the necessity of an external wire antenna apply on the weather band as well as the FM band.
With the wire antenna or a set of headphones connected, weather radio reception is good. I was able to receive both of my local NOAA weather reference frequencies.
To be clear, the DT-800 is not as sensitive as my C. Crane CC Skywave or CC Skywave SSB––which are truly WX band benchmarks––but it will likely receive your local NOAA or Environment Canada broadcasts as well as most other weather radios.
The DT-800 also includes a Weather Alert feature, but as Sangean notes, you should only use this feature while the radio is plugged into mains power, as it will drain batteries about as effectively as if you were listening to an FM radio station.
AM/Mediumwave Band
If there’s a weak point on the DT-800, I would say it’s the AM band.
Don’t get me wrong: at first blush, the DT-800 looks like a little Ultralight DXing dream, as it’s loaded with great features, such as:
- multiple bandwidths (wide/narrow),
- 9/10 kHz spacing,
- well-balanced AGC (auto gain control),
- as well as the ability to turn off soft muting.
Yes, the DT-800 has the ability to disable soft mute. Thank you, Sangean! So far, Sangean seems to be one of the only radio manufacturers that enables this DSP chip option in their product line. Another receiver with the ability to disable soft mute was the Sangean ATS-405 (check out our ATS-405 review). I wish other radio manufacturers would do the same because soft mute is what often makes listening to weak mediumwave signals so fatiguing. With soft mute disengaged, weak signals enjoy better audio stability as they’re not fighting to stay above the muting threshold.
But, I’m sorry, DXers: unfortunately, the DT-800’s weakness on AM is the same as the ATS-405 on AM (and shortwave): a higher-than-average noise floor. Somehow, internal noise is being generated and not being contained by shielding and grounding.
I made a short comparison video to demonstrate the noises heard via the DT-800. Before you ask: yes, these noises are present regardless of radio location, or whether or not there are other radios nearby. In addition, I made this video on a folding table far away from my house or any other potential sources of noise (with the exception of my iPhone which was used to make the video). This is the same low-noise spot I use to do comparison tests of all my portable receivers:
Click here to view this video on YouTube.
As I note in the video, the noise floor isn’t consistent across the band––some parts are lower, other parts higher. One of the noise peaks is around 1600 kHz which, unfortunately for me, is where my favorite local AM station resides.
So is this a deal-breaker? No…not necessarily. For the casual AM radio listener––a listener primarily focused on listening to local AM stations––I think the DT-800 will please. In fact, I might not have noticed the elevated noise floor had I not: 1) listened to weaker AM stations, and 2) compared the DT-800 with other radios.
Since I’ve been using and listening to this radio for the better part of a month, I can state with confidence that most of my other portables outperform the DT-800 on mediumwave. I compared it with these rigs:
- Sony ICF-S10MK2
- Tecsun PL-310ET
- CC Skywave
- CC Skywave SSB
- Radiwow R-108
To be clear, I believe the DT-800 has average MW sensitivity for a radio this size, but the noise floor sort of spoils any hopes of doing marginal or weak signal work, thus also making that awesome soft mute toggle less effective.
If you pair the DT-800 with a loop antenna like the AN200, which I highly recommend doing, it will help those weak signals rise above the noise. Otherwise, if your primary goal in purchasing the DT-800 is to listen to mediumwave, I regret to say, you might want to take a pass on this one.
Summary
Every radio has its pros and cons. Each time I begin a review of a radio, I take notes from the very beginning so that I don’t forget my initial impressions and observations. Here’s the DT-800’s list, from the first moments I turned it on, to the time of writing this review:
Pros:
- Great overall performance on FM
- Quality construction and thoughtful ergonomics
- Both clock and alarm for the traveler
- Ability to switch between FM stereo/mono with headphones in use
- Wide/narrow AM and FM filters
- NiMH AA batteries can be recharged internally [make sure switch inside battery compartment is set to “NiMH”]
- FM RDS (one mode)
- Mechanical keylock switch
- Ability to disable soft mute (other radio manufacturers take note!)
- Small internal speaker providing quite decent audio
- Comprehensive gear package includes radio, manuals, quality earphones, quality AC adapter, wire antenna
- DC port is standard MicroUSB
- Belt clip
- Built-in speaker
- Dynamic Bass Boost
Cons:
- While listening via the DT-800’s internal speaker without antenna wire or headphones inserted: FM performance is lacking, while weather radio performance is very much lacking
- AM band: Noise floor is higher than on comparable radios
Conclusion
The Sangean DT-800 is a solid little radio: it’s simple to operate and feels like a quality piece of kit. It’s perfect for hiking, or any sport or task where you’d like one-hand operation.
The DT-800 also has a surprising amount of features and customization through the menu settings––much more than one would expect––which puts it firmly into what I would call the “enthusiast-grade” radio category.
It’s for this reason that it’s a bit disappointing AM reception on this Sangean isn’t better.
The DT-800 has a lot of icing on the cake, otherwise: FM RDS, the ability to internally recharge AA batteries, built-in speaker, Dynamic Bass Boost, multiple bandwidths on AM and FM, the ability to disable soft mute–all of these are essentially pro features.
So, if you’re looking for a quality portable radio primarily for FM and WX band listening and perhaps catching the odd local AM broadcast, the DT-800 is a great choice.
Sangean DT-800 retailers:
- Universal Radio ($79.95)
- Amazon.com (Yellow $61.21 and Black $61.25) [affiliate links]
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Can the sangean dt800 be use with a dc cord for charging in a car?
I find my DT 800 very difficult to set the time compared to my cc pocket. I looked on line on the procedure and now I’m totally confused. Help.
Would anyone have a comparison with the DT-250?
Thanks for the very thorough review. Since your review, has Sangean ever done anything to reduce the noise on the AM band?
Thanks,
Tom
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for this helpful review. I am new to the world of radios, and looking for a very small, portable radio with weather capability. After using the DT-800 inside my brick apartment in the middle of a city, I’ve had great reception for the FM and AM bands, but essentially nothing for the weather stations. It is somewhat improved with the antenna wire, but still not great. Is that normal for those conditions? I’d like to have the radio for boating/camping trips, so know it will perform differently in less urban environments.
Also, I’d love to have a radio with either no antenna or an attached antenna, since I know that wire is likely to disappear the first time I leave the house with it. Any suggestions for how to improve reception with the DT-800 or alternative devices?
Thanks so much,
Brian
Thanks for this very thorough review. I had been looking for a radio for domestic travel that has AM/FM/NOAA with alert and an alarm clock. It’s surprisingly difficult to find one with all of them.
I got mine in yesterday and it really is a good little radio, thanks!
Em comparação com o CCrane Pocket, qual a sua opinião sobre o FM, isto é, qual dos 02 modelos tem melhor recepção FM.
Muito obrigado
Hi, Carlos, I’ve never compared the DT-800 directly with the Pocket. I’m willing to bet, though, that they are very similar.
Narrow bandwidth capability in FM band would be really desired feature here in Europe as we have 0.1 MHz station spacing here. Very few currently available receivers can separate stations 0.1 MHz apart from each others, and most of the best candidates for this seem to be made for American markets. The best choice made for Europe might be Albrecht DR 70, “A little wonder” as claimed by someone in a German radio forum:
https://www.rundfunkforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28595&sid=1f762f4dc0d8e5c57ef2248e145d0c98
It would be nice to see a listing of the receivers having the best radios with very narrow band capability in FM band here (or somewhere else).
Thomas once again you’ve produced an amazing review. I for one like how you give little simple radios as much attention as you give more expensive and more complicated gear. And you actually spend time getting to know it instead of making snap judgements based on a couple of hours of testing. Your love of reviewing shows and unlike other reviewers I know you call the shots as they are instead of trying to appease the manufacturer or retailers.
I do have two questions, if you don’t mind…
1. – Is the weather alert feature worthy of using the DT-800 as a primary weather radio? I live in the prairies and while not directly in tornado alley, we do get’em! We also get some nasty winter stuff like right now. I’ve been relying on my phone (Weather Bug app) to warn me when things get dicey. Could the DT-800’s weather alert feature work to warn me about these events so I wouldn’t need a dedicated weather radio? It would be nice if it could kill two birds with one stone so to speak.
2 – I don’t listen to AM these days except for one local station on 680. It’s powerful enough that I can even hear it on a crystal radio I built a few years ago. Do you think the DT-800 would serve me well to hear this station?
Thanks again for all you do! No rush to answer these.
Hi, Kevin,
Thanks for the kind words!
So the weather alert function on the DT-800 is nice, but control of it is really basic–not as granular as, say, the inexpensive Midland WR120. See: https://swling.com/blog/tag/midland-wr120/
The DT-800 will only do the weather alert for up to 16 hours at a time (and you’ll need to have the power supply plugged in during that time). The weather alert function is basic: if NOAA issues a weather alert warning, the radio essentially opens up the squelch so the audio can be heard.
I like the weather alert function–it’s a great feature for travelers especially. But at home? I use a WR120 as I can do a much better job controlling alerts, alarms and the counties I want included. Check out what Aaron wrote about the WR120 and the ways you can control it: https://swling.com/blog/2018/11/midland-wr120-review-aaron-says-weather-radios-like-smoke-detectors-are-something-we-all-need/
In a nutshell, the DT-800 weather alert function is great, but I don’t think it’s a replacement for a proper dedicated weather alert radio.
And will the DT-800 receive your local AM station with ease? Yes, it sounds like it would–no problem. When I listen to local stations, I don’t hear the DT-800’s internal noise because the signal to noise ratio is in favor of the broadcaster. It’s only noticeable with marginal or weak stations.
-Thomas
A note of caution on the DT-800. As a fairly new set, it appears that the available units are all the original version 01 firmware, and likely the first production run. Popular YouTube reviewer “Todderbert” has posted a few videos on the DT-800 and discovered some problems and discrepancies.
I bought a DT-800 two weeks ago, and I did not find the QA glitches he found; however, my particular radio *did* cut off all FM stereo reception whenever headphones were plugged in. After confirming the issue was with the radio and not my various headphones & earbuds, I returned the DT-800. Oddly, the stereo “ST” indicator would only illuminate with the wire FM antenna plugged in–and .you can only listen in mono through the speaker when the wire antenna is used! The quantity and strength of FM stations received was the same, but the radio never provided a stereo signal through the headphones.
Wow–what strange behavior for firmware versions! Thank you for your note, Guy!
Curious if you also hear the elevated noise levels on AM?
-Thomas
Hi Thomas,
I only checked the lower half of the AM band, and thought the radio seemed sensitive with clear audio. I did not notice any unusual noise levels, but then again it was only a cursory look at AM reception. You mentioned the worst noise on the upper AM band., but I didn’t venture up to those frequencies.
If I buy another DT-800 I’ll certainly give the DT-800 a thorough shake-down on AM.
-Guy
Thanks, Guy!
I’ve been looking for a roundup of “shirt-pocket portables”…hint hint
Ha ha! Noted!
Aswsome review on the Sangean DT-800. I’ve been waiting for this.
How does it compare with the C Crane Pocket Radio on AM?
My Pocket Radio has a problem where the buttons don’t always respond and I’ve been looking for a replacement.
Thanks!
Good question–I no longer have a CC Pocket Radio for comparison. I imagine the C. Crane is a wee bit better since the noise floor is pretty normal. Worth comparing at some point though…I’ll make a note.
Oh, and thank you!
-Thomas
Thomas,it would have been nice to compare the DT-800 with
some other fairly common sets like the DT-200x DT-400,DT-120/180,SRF-37
and so forth.
Since all use the headphone cord as an antenna the difference might not
have been that prnounced in some ways.
Yeah–I don’t have any of those for comparison else I would have. Good suggestion, though! In the end, though, I think this would be right on par with them in FM and WX.
Thank you for the review
This is my latest purchase. I saw your review only after I got my radio and beg to differ a bit from you.
For the Cons, any portable radio would also fumble with FM with it’s antenna folded up. So why state the FM is lacking without it’s antenna. The wire antenna or headphone is it’s antenna. Just with that I receive regularly stations 120-150kms away clearly and further away stations with some loss of clarity.
Now for AM, I get Indian stations more than 1600kms away clear and even 2500kms away somewhat clear with it’s internal ferrite rod. Even my Sony 7600GR cannot pull in this station.
The bandwidth control, fine tune steps, NiMh charging are wonderful..