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Bob’s Radio Corner: Which Antenna Input is Better? – A Case Study

By Bob Colegrove

A DXer recently posted the following question on the Internet: “Why do I get a much stronger signal if I clip a long wire to the telescoping antenna than if I connect it to the external jack”? He then postulated that this might be due to different input impedances at each point. Different receiver input impedances could affect the performance of a long wire antenna at a specific frequency.

The question reminded me of an experience I had a few years ago with both the Grundig Satellit 750 and 800. Different radios than that in question, but the same results. What follows describes a little-known feature I stumbled across (no claim to discovery) on the Satellit 750. Later, when I got a Satellit 800, I found it also worked on the older big brother.

The 750 and 800 radios share similar appearances and many of the same features, among them the various antenna input options, including a 50-ohm SO-239 for LW, MW, and SW; a 500-ohm pair of compression clamps for long wires when tuning the same bands; an F-connector for VHF; and a lengthy whip antenna which can be used on any band. Input selections are made with a pair of switches adjacent to the terminals on the back or side of the radio.

To mitigate noise, I use resonant loops to the exclusion of almost everything else. Just for fun, I tried the whip antenna as an input for a loop. Understand that the whip is a single-pole, electric field probe. There is no accompanying ground, or, as it is more euphemistically termed these days, a “counterpoise.” Thus, for application of a dipole or loop antenna, one must find a counterpoise. This was easier than expected, as it turned out to be the otherwise unused compression ground terminal for the 500-ohm input. When coupling antennas on radios, it does not always have to be invasive. I managed to temporarily jury-rig the connections to the loop antenna. The receiver came alive.

What’s going on here? A check of the block diagram and schematic provided the answer. The circuit for the radio’s whip antenna input contains an additional RF amplifier stage, which is not used for either the 50- or 500-Ohm external antenna inputs.

For anyone interested, the easiest download for the block diagram (Sheet 2) and RF schematic (Sheet 4) is at https://elektrotanya.com/grundig_satellit-800_sch.pdf/download.html#dl. These drawings are labeled for the Chinese Ham-2000 branding of the Satellit 800 and are fuzzy but readable.

Besides this subtle suggestion, the only other clue I have been able to find for this circuit came from the review in the 2002 edition of Passport to World Band Radio. “Weak-signal shortwave sensitivity with an external antenna can be boosted by setting antenna switch to ‘whip,’ thus adding preamplification…” (p.129); [sic] and using the whip for the input.

The effort soon became one of rendering the connection between the loop (or any dipole) antenna and the receiver more permanent. There was a time when I might have violated the integrity of the radio and done a proper job of it. A proper job would be to completely bypass any potential unshielded source of RF, in this case, the whip itself, and connect a shielded lead-in directly to the amplifier. At this point I didn’t want to make any permanent alterations to an otherwise museum-quality unit. Truth be told, I’ve grown averse to exertion of any unnecessary effort. The result is certainly not elegant. Further, the lack of shielding around the exposed whip might potentially compromise the results. Nevertheless, the kluge pictured below was fabricated and works surprisingly well, maintaining normal peak and null responses from the loop.

The ”hot” terminal of a 3.5-mm jack, compatible with the plugs on my antennas, has been soldered to an alligator clip, which, in turn, is connected to the top of the collapsed whip antenna on the radio. The “counterpoise” is a short piece of hookup wire connected between the ground lug on the 3.5-mm jack and the grounded compression terminal on the radio. Without a counterpoise for a loop or dipole, it will simply act as an electric field extension of the whip. The only other requirement is to set the “SW” switch (also used for LW and MW) to the “WHIP” position.

If you’re working with a long wire (monopole), forget all that stuff above, and just clip the wire to the top of the whip. I will add a caution about connecting long wires. Semiconductors are vulnerable to high voltage input. Electrostatic discharge, either atmospheric or bodily, has been known to ruin input circuits. Fortunately, this does not appear to be a problem in recent years, and the external wire packed with your radio is likely quite safe for experimentation.

I am not a big fan of active antennas, feeling they are often a source of additional noise. However, in the case of this little deviation from the normal antenna inputs on these radios, the amp is already there, and the result has been very satisfying, proving once again that a bit of tinkering in this pastime is sometimes advantageous. Note: For many portable radios, the whip input does not work on LW and MW, so this approach will only apply to SW.

If there is a point to this posting, it is in the form of a question: Are there any other radios having one of their inputs augmented (amplified) – likely the whip? The fact that a radio is equipped with a whip antenna indicates that, by design, it is intended to be portable. For LW, MW and SW, this means whip antennas pose an acceptable operational handicap. This compromise permits the listener some flexibility to move around with the radio. So, it’s reasonable that designers may have chosen to augment the whip with some internal amplification.

Finally, don’t give up on an antenna input which appears to be less sensitive. It may be more responsive on a different band, or it may mitigate overload produced by the hotter input. Whether it’s a case of different input impedances or an extra RF amplifier inserted on the whip, it’s in a DXer’s interest to find out if performance differs for each input on their own radio.

Radio Deal: Eton Grundig Satellit 750

Many thanks to SWLing Post contributor, Christian, who writes:

Hi Thomas. Thought you and your readers might like to know that the Eton Grundig Satellit 750 has just dropped to the lowest price I’ve seen in over three years on Amazon.com…$262.43 shipped. As always, Amazon prices change without notice so just be aware.

Click here to view (purchasing with this affiliate link supports the SWLing Post).

Thanks for the tip, Christian! I appreciate the fact that you watch these deals so closely for us.

Radio Deal: Grundig Satellit 750 via Amazon

Many thanks to SWLing Post contributor, Larry W, who writes:

The Grundig Satellit 750 is now on sale on Amazon.com for $255.95 shipped. This is the best price I have seen in ages! Typically the 750 floats between $300-320. I thought you might want to post this because 750 sales are so rare compared with other radios. I just “bit the bullet” and bought one myself as I’ve been eyeing this rig for a while now!

Thanks for the tip, Larry! As I mention with any Amazon.com sale–which is based on an algorithm–the price can change suddenly without notice.

Click here to view at Amazon.com (affiliate link).

The end of the Grundig Satellit 750?

Many thanks to Dave Zantow (N9EWO) and a number of other SWLing Post contributors who’ve noted that Universal Radio is listing the Grundig Satellit 750 as “Not Currently Available.” Universal offers the following explanation on their product page:

UPDATE: 11/21/17
Eton-Grundig has informed us the Satellit 750 is currently not available.
They cannot provide an availability date. We are not taking orders at this time.

I’ve also noted that the ‘750 is no longer on the Eton website.  It does appear Amazon.com still has inventory, but no doubt they will eventually deplete their stock. The ‘750 is sold at a number of other retailers–simply search the model number in your favorite search engine and you’ll likely find retailers with remaining stock.

So it does appear the Grundig Satellit 750 may be discontinued. If so, it’s certainly had a long product life.

Tom notes decrease in price of Grundig Satellit 750 on Amazon

Many thanks to SWLing Post contributor, Tom Ally, who writes:

[Grundig/Eton] radios are going back down in price. [This] isn’t the lowest price I have seen for the Grundig Satellit 750, but now is a good time to get this model if you don’t have it as that is not a bad price!

Click here to view on Amazon.

Thanks for the tip, Tom! $296.99 US shipped is indeed a good price. Most retailer list them well into the $300 price range at time of posting.

Post Readers: Do you own the ‘750? Please comment on its performance.

Paul’s (very cold) DXing post in Alaska

Many thanks to SWLing Post contributor, Paul Walker, who writes:

In case anyone is mildly curious, this is the spot where I sit to DX.

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These are my radios and antennas.

Equipment in photo above: Grundig Satellit 750, Lowe HF225, 2 225 foot long wires, a Wellbrook ALA1530LNP magnetic loop and DX Engineering HF Preamp.

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And this is what’s to my back when DXing at 0945 AM local time

It was warm today, 4F above zero (-15.5C) instead of yesterday’s -18F below (-27.7C)!

Paul Walker
Galena, Alaska

That’s it, Paul! Next time I hear a DXer complaining about the weather, I’m just going to send them a link to this post! 🙂 Those are some seriously cold temps, yet I know it gets much, much colder there in the winter!

The Sony CF-560s: a shortwave favorite in Spain

Sony-CF-560s-2Many thanks to SWLing Post reader, Jesus Leal, for contacting me and sharing photos of his Sony CF-560s shortwave receiver. I have never seen the CF-560s before. I believe the its a relatively rare receiver; indeed, I couldn’t even find one in the completed listings on eBay.

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The CF-560s covers AM/FM/SW and has a built-in cassette player/recorder. Being a “boombox” style radio, I imagine the SW filter is wide and, when locked into a strong station, provides rich audio.
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Mr. Leal, who lives in the La Mancha region of Spain, uses the Sony CF-560s for regular shortwave listening but also has a Grundig/Eton Satellit 750 in his radio arsenal.

GrundigSatellit750Any other SWLing Post readers have the Sony CF-560s? Looks like a gem of a radio.  The design certainly has strong 1980s nostalgic value.